Question: Dear Sir, a few questions:
1. Why am I so attracted to the personality and mannerisms of all my teachers, often curious about their lives than the truth of their teachings?
2. When I read Jiddu Krishnamurti(JK), am I conditioned by him?
3. Is JK’s method really ‘via negativa’ all the time? Why does he keep denying being a guru when that is all what he does?
4. How can we justify living in comfort when there are people out there on streets who are hungry? How could Osho and JK live lives of comfort knowing this?
5. The problem of mental suffering can be solved, but does the inequity in life lie in physical suffering then? For instance, two sharp minds that see the truth may have different levels of suffering based on their physical state.
6. Is pain mostly the starting point of wisdom. (A wound is a place where light enters you- Rumi)
7. Is the universe simply an act of becoming, of hurtling forward?
Answer: What you are experiencing is love.
It is a demand of the integration of love to want to know all and everything about the beloved, to reach out and embrace in all manners possible.
To fall in love with Jiddu Krishnamurti- that is a privilege, a blessing.
You very well know Krishnamurti is playing a trick when he is talking of gurus, and you also know that he denies gurudom because he loves you. It is out of his concern and empathy that he does not want you to fall in the traps of some charlatan. This is not very different from motherly concern. Though I know he would furiously deny it 🙂
No, no method can always be via negativa. Negativa is a method, a route. Bliss is not nothing. Even shoonyata is not nothing. Though JK might deny this as well 🙂
Remember he is a man, full of concern. It is alright if he speaks in tangential ways a few times. You must learn to read him the way he should be read- from the mind, and from the heart. Would you stick just to his words, or do you understand the man? What do lovers have to do with each others’ words? The teacher and the disciple – its a love affair first, and anything else only thereafter. There are very few who adore JK the way you do. Mostly he appears dry and heavy and too demanding. You are the one who sees beauty in him. He is indeed so beautiful and rich, and has much more to offer than mere words.
About changing the external world, and why no Prophet has tried to address the problem of economic poverty etc: The work of a saint is internal. If external work, that necessarily involves doership, is to be measured, then it is true that no saint has ever contributed anything to mankind.
When I was a student of Engineering, I once asked: Kabir was a weaver, why did he not introduce some revolution in weaving or spinning technology? Was he not guilty of ignoring technological progress? Today I know better than that. We know that the external is only an image of the internal. The real work is within. At some stage, the work within starts showing externally also. The European Renaissance is such a good example.
Suffering: Knowledge eliminates suffering that is about to come in the future. But what about the suffering for which the seeds have already been sown in the past? If a cause has been created in the past, the effect will surely take place. So, even an enlightened man may have to suffer because of the actions of his past. The body is an action of the past, a residue of evolution. One will have to pass through all the suffering that the body has to give. No knowledge, no enlightenment can save one from physical suffering. Ramanna, Osho, Mahavir, Ramkrishna all died of horrible and prolonged physical illnesses. However, even physical suffering materialises itself in the mind only. Once the mind is dropped, there is no place where physical suffering can express itself into sorrow.
Pain: Yes, pain is important. Rumi is spot-on, and beautifully so. So is Buddha. When he first opens his eyes, all he sees and feels is pain. When the Buddha says – ‘the world is full of suffering’, is he talking of the world? No, it is the Buddha’s own suffering that springs up when he has just half-opened his eyes.
As long as you remain asleep, like a stone, there is no suffering. The moment you start opening your eyes, the first thing you will surely encounter is pain. This pain is nothing but the result of the karma of keeping your eyes closed for so long. However, the advent of pain is a sure indicator of freedom from pain, of passing through pain to the other shore.
Ghalib said in some other context, but suits nicely: Ye ishq nahin aasaan, bas itna samajh leeje/ Ek aag ka dariya hai, aur doob ke jaana hai. (This ‘love’ is not easy, do understand that. It is a river of fire. One has to drown deep in it).
Universe, forward and backward: Forward, backward etc. are only concepts of this mind.
-Based on my interactions on various e-media.
Dated: 12th November,’11
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