Understanding doership, confusion and sureness || Acharya Prashant (2017)

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Understanding doership, confusion and sureness

Question 1: Acharya Ji, you often say, “If you want it, pay the price.” And on the other side, you also say, “If you are the doer it cannot happen.” These two statements cause confusion and put me into trap.

Acharya Prashant Ji: The doer is characterized, by accumulation. Whatever the doer does, is with the intention to accumulate, to become more of himself, to gather. ‘Paying the price’ means – de-accumulation. De-accumulate, give it away. That is what – ‘paying the price’ means. These are two different qualities of action.

When you are the doer, you will never be prepared to pay the price. Because ‘paying the price’ means – giving away. And when you are the doer, you are always gathering, rather than giving away.

So, look at yourself – what is your action resulting in? If it is resulting in more of yourself, a bigger you, more stuff to think about, more stuff to carry and boast of, then you are the ‘doer’. And it is not going to help.

But, if what is happening through you, is resulting in a be-littling, in a reduction, in a dissolution – “I will no more have which I used to have. I will no more have that which I was proud of. I will no more have that which I was attached to”- then you can say that you are paying the price.

Question 2: Acharya Ji, I am more confused inside the session hall compared to the outside world. I am confused that I should speak or not, ask something or not, and this state continues.

Acharya Ji: That is my job – to totally confuse you. Because if you are not confused, then you are settled and determined about your ways. You will continue to move. Now, how will you move? In which direction will you move? In your self-assured certainty, what would you be doing? Who is verifying and stamping your deeds as ‘right’?

Absence of confusion means a certainty – ‘I know what I am doing is right’. Who is verifying the rightness of your deeds? From where is the test, the benchmark, the standard, coming? What is the agency that is verifying? You go and buy something. And you are sure that you have made the right decision. You enter into a relationship, and you are not confused. You say, “I have done the right thing.”

Don’t you see that those who are manufacturing the thing that you are buying, are also parallely manufacturing the benchmark using which you will assess that purchase?

The car-maker is not only manufacturing the car, but also the mind that values that car. That is why they need to advertise so heavily – to produce the mind, that will value the car. They actually have production centers at two places. One is the factory where the car is being manufactured. The other is the TV screen where the mind is being manufactured. Unless there exists the mind that values the car, who will buy the car.

So, there can be no confusion, because the confusion arises only when the assessing agency sees a discrepancy. Now, the assessing agency is the same, as the thing being assessed. Now the judge and the convict, are coming from the same point. Can there be confusion in the judgement now? Will there ever be any confusion?

Here, there is confusion. Here there will be confusion because the convict here, is really in the dock. Because the judge here is independent of you. There you do something, and you yourself are your best judge. You say, “You know what, I will be my guru, I will be my judge, and I will assess whether I have done the right thing.”

And when you are both – the doer and the judge, then of course all your judgments will be aligned with what you do. How can there be any confusion? It is good that you are confused here. May you be confused even more. Confusion only means that – the convict is stubborn. He is still defending himself stoutly. 

A point should come, where there will be not only confusion, but rather a total defeat.

Questioner 3: Acharya Ji, at one point you have said, “If you are really sure, all your energy rises into action.” What is this sureness that you are talking of here?

Acharya Ji: Is it something that you can impose upon yourself? Just by telling yourself, that you should be sure, would you be able to invoke sureness? So, where is the question of – should I be sure, or should I not be sure? When you are sure, you ‘are’ sure.

‘Sureness’ is not a mental state.

Sureness is an absence of something.

What is ‘sureness in absence of’?

Sureness is an absence of contradiction.

Sureness is an absence of conflict.

Sureness is not something that you wear. Sureness is not something that you put on yourself. Sureness is not something that you compel yourself to be with. Sureness, I repeat, is an absence. Sureness is not a state of mind.

Sureness is not a positive or an affirmative statement. Sureness is not about saying, “Of course I am sure.” Sureness is about seeing something so cleanly, so directly, that it cannot be denied anymore. When you cannot deny it, then of course you are sure of it.

Sureness is not about some special vision. Sureness is just about the absence of blinders on the eyes.

Sureness is not extra-ordinary.

When you don’t have those blinders on, then you are sure about everything. Are you not sure that I am sitting here? And if you are sure that I am sitting here, then are you sure only of this, or are you parallely sure of the fan, of the light, of the curtains, of the door, of the other people as well?

When you are sure, you are sure of everything.

You cannot be selectively sure.

If you are seeing me right now, then it is within you to also see the woman here, the man there, the equipment here, the door there, the plants, the winds, the birds, everything.

Are you getting it?

Sureness is a composite.

Sureness is a totality.

Sureness is not something that you force yourself into.

It is not motivation.

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Excerpted from a ‘Shabd-Yog’ session. Edited for clarity.

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We marry problems

Troubles, give you so much to fill your self up.  Troubles gives you a nice identity, an identity that you can get so easily use to.

Life without problems is not possible but there can be life, beyond problems.

The moment you withdraw from the problem, the problem will fall. There is no problem that you experience that comes to you, without your consent, participation and active involvement.

We don’t, marry and get problems. We, marry problems.

To drop problems means to drop the ego, drop the troubling self.



Read the complete article: Acharya Prashant: Surely there is life beyond troubles

Acharya Prashant: Surely there is life beyond troubles

Question: Acharya Ji, can the ego ever be free of troubles?

Acharya Prashant: You need to have faith, that there is life beyond troubles; otherwise troubles are so sweet. Who am I ~ The troubled one.

Troubles, give you so much to fill your self up.  Troubles gives you a nice identity, an identity that you can get so easily use to.

I am, the one, stung by problems. I am the one, who is the victim of troubles. Troubles, problems, all of them, can so easily, give you something, to live by. You must, first of all, let yourself, acknowledge, that there can be life, beyond problems, not without problems.

Life without problems is not possible but there can be life, beyond problems.

But we have a great belief in problems. No?

In fact, you know, it is an insult to problems, that we call them problems. Our problems are our intimate friends. The proof is that you will not let them go.  Will you ever let your problems go? Even if the problem is willing to go, you will catch it, by its collar and you’ll say, no, you don’t have to.  Okay, you can go at a more opportune time.  You have been a guest here for so long and now its late at night and out there, there are thief’s and thugs so you can go in the morning.

AP: That morning never comes. No problem, I assure you, can stay with you, without your active involvement in the problem.

The moment you withdraw from the problem, the problem will fall. There is no problem that you experience that comes to you, without your consent, participation and active involvement.

L: Why we can’t see life beyond the problem?

AP: Because you have been made to believe, through the whole process of your evolution, that there is no life beyond problems and if there is no life beyond problems, then problem-lessness to you means life-lessness.  You do not want to die. You have a belief that the moment problems disappear, life too will disappear, and you do not want to die.

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Series of great miracles

The subtle can be perceived only by the subtle.

We talk as if miracles happen sometimes. ‘Time’ itself is a miracle.

To believe in miracles is to believe in your personal helplessness. To believe in miracles is to accept that the center of doing is not you, that what is happening is not really your accomplishment.

The miracle tells you that neither have you done it nor do you understand what has been done that is too much for the ego.

You will never be very open to believing in miracles. To believe in miracles is to believe in grace. ‘Grace’ is a miracle. To believe in miracles is to believe in love, truth. You would much rather believe in yourself; Love, truth, grace, they obliterate you. The work of God is miraculous. The work of God is not something that the human mind can make sense of, and that is a miracle. But as we just said, if you cannot make sense of something you feel humiliated. There is another mind that feels delighted when he sees something of the beyond happening. He has faith.

The very existence of Jesus is a miracle. No other miracle is needed.

Life is nothing but a series of great miracles.

The very existence of the Jesus is a miracle. Obviously, everything that happens through him is bound to be a miracle.



Read the complete article:  Acharya Prashant on Jesus – What does it take to believe in miracles

On Jesus: What does it take to believe in miracles?

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Acharya Prashant: The next question says:

Dear Acharya Ji, Pranam

After reading the story of Lazarus, this is what comes to the mind. We all want to see miracles in order to believe in the existence of a God. Something that is magical or out of the ordinary. Most of us have witnessed those moments at some point in our lives. Yet those moments pass and we go on with our normal lives as if nothing has happened. So what does it then take to believe fully and completely? And why do we find it so difficult?

‘Miracles’ are continuously happening Nimisha. But to whom are the miracles happening? Who would perceive the miracles as happening? The one who is to perceive is lost in the gross material. He can perceive nothing but that which is loud, sensory, material.

The subtle can be perceived only by the subtle.

That is the reason why blunt demonstrations like the one in the case of Lazarus are talked of. That Lazarus loved Jesus was in itself the highest miracle. But that miracle would not be appreciated. It would not even be called a miracle because we are gross people. We have lost the sensitivity, the receptivity to perceive, record, register the little, the faint, the delicate and that is the reason why we talk only of some miracles. We do not talk of a continuity of miracles.

We talk as if miracles happen sometimes.

‘Time’ itself is a miracle.

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On Jesus Christ and Sage Ashtavakra: Don’t accompany the thief!

 

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The thought ‘I am the doer’ is the bite of the poisonous snake.

To know ‘I do nothing’ is the wisdom of faith. Be joyful.

Ashtavakra Gita

(Chapter 1, VERSE 8)

Acharya Prashant: Ashtavakra Gita has been quoted.

“The thought ‘I am the doer’ is the bite of the poisonous snake. To know ‘I do nothing’ is the wisdom of faith. Be joyful.”

Ashtavakra Gita (Chapter 1, VERSE 8)

The question says “The Ashtavakra here is saying that doership is sin. But Jesus says ‘Let me do it. I’m the doer’. So why is there this contradiction? ”

Obviously there can be no contradiction. If Ashtavakra is saying that doership is sin, and Jesus is saying that He’s the doer, then obviously Ashtavakra and Jesus are not talking about the same entity. When Ashtavakra says doership is sin, he’s saying let not the ego act. Only the ego is interested in claiming doership. Only the ego is interested in creating and maintaining a divide in which one part can do something to the other.

The doership of the ego is always an exercise in fear, incompleteness and exploitation. Therefore, Ashtavakra is saying that doership is sin. When Jesus says in many place, on multiple occasions that He is the doer or the knower, he’s not talking as a limited person. He is not talking because the talking would gratify him, inflate him, magnify him, or help him become something. His doing is no doership at all because the common doership that we see is always the doership of fear and faithlessness.

When Jesus is acting and he is doing, then it is not arising from a motivation to serve his own personalhood. He has already arrived. He is home. He does not want to go anywhere or reach or become better. He is now merely doing. He is not aspiring. He is the doer, not someone who wants to be transformed through the doing.

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Look at all that which is a certainty with you, that is where your demons lie

The doer only knows to act. He is identified by his doing, by his activities. Do not give energy to those activities. The doer will say, “I am interpreting what this speaker is saying.” Immediately you must know that your interpretation is a foolish interpretation. The doer will say, “I will decide what to do next.” Immediately you must know that your decision is a self-defeating decision. Whatever the doer does or thinks, you must know that it is stupid and wrong. In fact, that is the very definition of wrong action – that which comes from the doer.

But you have known only the doer. You have known only the doer. Of the real doer, of the immense, you only have thoughts or at best a faint ancient remembrance. Otherwise, your life is totally full of only the doer. Which practically then means that you will have to doubt everything, which practically then means that you will have to reject your ways totally.

But this will be so difficult when the world around you is constantly teaching you to be confident and motivated. This will be very difficult when there are teachers and gurus who are constantly egging you on to achieve your goals. The real seeker knows fully well that his goals are bound to be stupid. But there are so many so-called well-wishers who want you to keep moving, who want you to realize your dreams. All dreams are whose dreams, the doer’s dreams. So, if you are really sincere then you will have the guts for total self-annihilation. And without that, there is no freedom from your predicament.

Start with the little things of the day. Start with all that which you do automatically, habitually. Do you know what this automatic doing implies? This automatic doing implies that you have such a deep belief in that action that you do not even think it fit to inquire it. You are saying, “This must be right so I can do it automatically. Why do I need to pass it through the scanner? Because I have heard of it so much because I have seen it so much and because I have been doing it so repeatedly, this must be right. Everybody is doing it so I can do it without any consideration.”

That is where you must immediately pause. That which you have been constantly doing without any consciousness, under the strong and terrible assumption that it must be right, that is what you must immediately question. I repeat, look at all that which is a certainty with you, that is where your demons lie. What is a certainty with you? Come to this very instance. It is a certainty that you will get up from here and go into a particular direction. Won’t you? And, why don’t you want to look into that? Why don’t you want to question that? Why not?

Is it not a certainty with you that you will behave and react only in particular ways and patterns? Why must it happen that way? Is it not a certainty with you that you will be found next to only a particular set of people, only next to a particular man or a particular woman? Why must that be a certainty? Whatever is a certainty with you is an act of the doer and the more certain it is, the more deeply embedded it is in your psyche.



Read the complete article: If you are absolutely sure of something, there is an absolute need to enquire

If you are absolutely sure of something, there is an absolute need to enquire

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Question: What is meant by dropping the doer?

Acharya Prashant: Dropping the doer means not supporting the doer.  The doer is a helpless, powerless, parasitic being. The doer can survive only as long as somebody else supports him. The doer has no life of its own. The doer is survived, maintained and furthered by your belief in the doer. So, it’s simple, doubt the doer. Do not stand behind him. Do not keep supporting him. Do not be his friends; for the parasite has no friends. The parasite only has a host.

Whenever a thought arises within you, immediately an alarm must go off – Another Trap. Whenever you feel that you are sure of something, immediately an alarm must go off – Another Failure. Whenever you are sure of something, absolutely sure, that is when you must be absolutely sure that you are being fooled. Of that which you are totally certain in life, that is what your curse and your bane. That is what is meant by getting rid of the doer. Read more

The Source is one with the material and the movement

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The source and the manifestation-the progeny

and the material, the body

and the actions of the body-the kala,

are all one.

Shiv Sutra(1.3)

Acharya Prashant: The source and the manifestation-the progeny and the material, the body and the actions of the body-the kala, are all one.

The ‘source’ refers to the origin of it all. ‘Kala’ refers to activity or movement. ‘Sharir’ obviously refers to the body or the material. The source, the material and the movement all are one. They can be one only if you stop expecting that the source lies elsewhere. Please understand what is being said. If the source is one with the rock as well as the movement of the rock, then do you need to transform the rock into a temple? If the source is one with all this, then the source is just one with the fact of all this. Then you don’t need to have a creator God. Read more

Acharya Prashant on Hafiz: Who is the lover the saint sings for?

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The subject tonight is love and for tomorrow night as well.

As a matter of fact, I know of no better topic for us to discuss, until we all die.

(Hafiz)

 

Acharya Prashant: Rumi, Hafiz, Meera, Bulle Shah, they sing of love, and in their poetry the lover often appears like a person. They talk of the lover, to the lover, in language that appears known and worldly. It is almost as if the man next door is composing and singing for his beloved who lives in the same town or somewhere afar. The whole ambience appears beautiful but not unknown. It is very easy therefore, to think that one person is singing for another person or one person is calling God, God as we know God. And is doing this lyrically, nicely, beautifully, heart fully. But the song, is something that we are familiar with. Read more

On Anger, observation, middle path, and right action

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Question: It is said that the sage doesn’t get angry for long time. Can you talk about this?

Speaker: Do you bother about how other people love? If you have a real relationship with anybody; with a child, with a dog, with a woman, do you bother about how other people love? Why must you bother so much about how that particular sage was behaving or acting or performing miracles? You have your own heart, and your own God, your own lover. Why don’t you look directly at Him? And if you are really a lover, would you look directly at your beloved or would you look around?

There is a beloved and you are experiencing a distance between you and Him, and that distance is your only desire. You want to get rid of the distance. Your eyes are set on your beloved. Now would you talk about this and that? Would you talk about what is happening in the neighbour’s house? Would you talk about how they behave and perform and talk? Tell me. Would all of that be of any importance to you?

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Are you in the same dimension as the pattern?

Don’t be afraid of patterns.

Be with the Truth; you will not be afraid.

And when you are not afraid of patterns then you can toy around with them. And it won’t matter whether you fall into the pattern, whether you break the pattern; whether you play by the rules, whether you disregard them — nothing will matter.

The only thing that matters is: Are you in the same dimension as the pattern? Or are you in another dimension?

That is the only difference.

There is one mind that fights problems and never succeeds.

And there is another mind that goes past problems and goes past success and defeat.

The mind that wants to fight problems or solve problems will always find itself getting more and more problems.

It will forever be stuck in the game of success and defeat against the problem.


To read the complete article: How to break mental patterns?

Both doing and not doing are acts of the ego

The moment you are conscious about the thoughts,
the fact of consciousness feeds the thoughts; it inflates them.

And this too is a very popular myth: There are ‘teachers’ who keep suggesting that you must not do such and such things with thoughts.

By not doing anything with thoughts, you have already done a lot.

Now, what more can you do!

They don’t realise this.

They don’t realise that both doing and not doing are acts of the ego.

They are both doings!


To read the complete article: If you don’t rely on God, then you’ll rely on thought

That which you do to solve your problem becomes the problem

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Question: I suffer a lot because I do not know my child has an incident, I suffer, I cry. What can I do then?

AP: Whatever you do, if you do, knowing that you are going to do it, are you doing it or is the thought doing it?

Listener 1: It is the thought.

AP: And we have just discovered that you need not have thought before the doing.  You really do not need to have thought before the action. Thoughtless action is possible and it is not as bad as the popular culture makes it out to be. We use thoughtlessness almost as an abuse.

We say, ‘What a thoughtless man!’ Don’t we? When someone acted in a stupid way then, we say what a thoughtless action. First of all, that is not a thoughtless action, secondly, if it indeed happens to be thoughtless actions, it is something of the highest quality.

That which we want to do in order to solve our problems, only feeds our problems.

My request is, for a moment stop resisting your problems.

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Non-doing and doing good for the world

Question: Sir, you said, ‘non-doing is important’. What if I want to do something good for the world?

Acharya Prashant: Let the dreamer live to materialise his dream.

If you have a dream, then you will have to continue to materialise that dream. Right? Dreams are always for the future. If I have a dream, then I will have to continue myself into the future to materialise that dream, to fulfil that dream.

And what is this continuation into the future?

This is what is called as the flow of suffering.

Now the next thing — you want to do good to the world.

Do good to the world by not doing what the world is doing. The world is suffering out of its own ignorance and stupidity. Do good to the world by not being ignorant.

Your own wisdom is the highest good that you can do to the world.

And remember, wisdom is not passive. Wisdom is a great flowering. Your wisdom will illuminate uncountable, innumerable numbers around you, and in ways that you cannot know or predict. So, do not think of the world. Do not think of doing good to the world. Your own liberation is the first and final step. And your own liberation is from the world.

“I could have done so many other things”, when does one do anything? What is meant by doing? When you see somebody doing something, what is it that accompanies the doing?

Doing is always accompanied by the desire of the results of the doing, the fruits of the doing. If you are not concerned with the fruits of the action, then you are not the actor.

Action is not merely extending your hand to someone. You are the actor when you are desiring something out of the stretched hand. Otherwise, you are not doing anything. Otherwise, the doing is just happening. It is not a decision for me to come here, just as it would not be a decision to walk away silently.

Spirituality does not use the jargon of physics.

In physics, work done is just force multiplied by the distance covered in the direction of force. But in spirituality, you have done something, only if you have done something with desire. Otherwise keep doing; let the doing happen.


~ Excerpts from a ‘Shabd-Yoga’ session. Edited for clarity.

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Problems will continue as long as you want them to stop

 

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Question: There are times when I feel that there is a flickering in observation. For how long it will continue?

Acharya Prashant: It will continue as long as you want it to cease.

It will continue as long as you want it to stop. When you do not want it to stop, it stops. As long as you have problems with it, it will continue.

L1: It is very very strong even when I am just the observer.

AP: Let it be strong. Let it carry you away. Your resistance is what keeps furthering it. Let the storm come, let it carry you away, keep watching. When the bouncer is bowled to a good batsman, he may hook, he may duck, he may play, he may leave but one thing is certain – he must always keep his eyes on the ball.

Keep watching.  Read more

Do not meditate for peace, meditate in peace

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Listener: Is meditation required?

Acharya Prashant: What is meditation?

L: It’s like concentrating on the breathing.

AP: Have we not already talked of concentration?

To concentrate is to force the mind to a particular object, and the mind doesn’t like being forced. So, if mediation about concentration then the mind will never agree with meditation. Or, is meditation something else?

What is meditation?

The very action of a peaceful mind is called meditation.

Whatever you do in peace is meditation.

This is meditation. That is meditation. All is meditation. Read more

If you don’t rely on God, then you’ll rely on thought

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Question: What I notice with myself is that having thoughts prevents me from listening with attention and then I say to them, ‘leave; go away!’ What’s your opinion on this?

Acharya Prashant: Don’t say even that much to your thoughts.

Listener 1: Then? Is it not about being conscious of the thoughts?

AP: No. Don’t even be conscious of the thought; because whatever you are with respect to the thought is just the furtherance of the thought.

Don’t even look at the thought! And when I say don’t even look at the thought, I would amplify it by saying that ‘don’t even don’t look at the thought,’ and then I would amplify that by saying, ‘don’t even don’t even don’t look at the thought’. Read more

You are still standing within the room

It does not matter whether you are standing in the middle of the room, or at the edge of the room.

You are still standing within the room.

All your efforts, all your movements, are limited to the boundary of the room.

You cannot breach that boundary on your own.

So, bow down in prayer.

You will have to give yourself up.

You will never own up your mistakes

You will never own up your mistakes.

You will be brought to a point where you will have no option but to see that you have been an idiot.

You will be left option-less.

Till the time you have an option, you will exercise it.

Till the time you have an option, you will only choose the ego because only the ego has options.

What else will you choose?

Willingly, it is never going to happen.

Never, ever!

And those for whom it is happening willingly, it is not really happening.

If it is happening willingly for you, then it is not really happening.

Then it means that it is a part of your internal conspiracy.